{"id":32913,"date":"2026-01-28T09:35:32","date_gmt":"2026-01-28T15:35:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/?p=32913"},"modified":"2026-02-04T11:58:45","modified_gmt":"2026-02-04T17:58:45","slug":"jung-in-the-world-individuation-at-75-oliver-sackss-journey-to-wholeness-with-bill-hayes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/jung-in-the-world-individuation-at-75-oliver-sackss-journey-to-wholeness-with-bill-hayes\/","title":{"rendered":"Jung in the World | Individuation at 75: Oliver Sacks&#8217;s Journey to Wholeness with Bill Hayes"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1951\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-32913-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/jungchicago\/content.blubrry.com\/jungchicago\/Jungianthology-142-Jung-in-the-World-Bill-Hayes-Interview-AUPHONIC.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/jungchicago\/content.blubrry.com\/jungchicago\/Jungianthology-142-Jung-in-the-World-Bill-Hayes-Interview-AUPHONIC.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/jungchicago\/content.blubrry.com\/jungchicago\/Jungianthology-142-Jung-in-the-World-Bill-Hayes-Interview-AUPHONIC.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/jungchicago\/content.blubrry.com\/jungchicago\/Jungianthology-142-Jung-in-the-World-Bill-Hayes-Interview-AUPHONIC.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=32913-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/jungchicago\/content.blubrry.com\/jungchicago\/Jungianthology-142-Jung-in-the-World-Bill-Hayes-Interview-AUPHONIC.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Jungianthology-142-Jung-in-the-World-Bill-Hayes-Interview-AUPHONIC.mp3\">Download<\/a> (36.5MB) <\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Individuation isn&#8217;t about becoming better. It&#8217;s about becoming whole. At 75, neurologist Oliver Sacks finally integrated the parts of himself he&#8217;d kept hidden\u2014his sexuality, his need for love, his domestic life (who knew he kept a library of Jung\u2019s work). Bill Hayes talks intimately about Sacks&#8217;s late-life transformation which exemplifies Jung&#8217;s crucial insight: growth isn&#8217;t about fixing what&#8217;s broken. It&#8217;s about integrating what you&#8217;ve exiled.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignleft size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Bill-Hayes-2025.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"510\" height=\"645\" src=\"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Bill-Hayes-2025-510x645.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-32914\" style=\"aspect-ratio:0.7907010746399591;width:168px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Bill-Hayes-2025-510x645.jpg 510w, https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Bill-Hayes-2025-198x250.jpg 198w, https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Bill-Hayes-2025-119x150.jpg 119w, https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Bill-Hayes-2025.jpg 569w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 510px) 100vw, 510px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The recipient of a Guggenheim Fellowship in nonfiction, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.billhayes.com\/\" type=\"link\" id=\"https:\/\/www.billhayes.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Bill Hayes<\/a><\/strong> is a frequent contributor to the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/nyti.ms\/2bMkmL7\"><em>New York Times<\/em><\/a>&nbsp;and the author of seven books, including&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.billhayes.com\/book\/sleep-demons-an-insomniacs-memoir\/\"><em>Sleep Demons<\/em><\/a>;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.billhayes.com\/book\/five-quarts-a-personal-and-natural-history-of-blood\/\"><em>Five Quarts<\/em><\/a>;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.billhayes.com\/book\/the-anatomist-a-true-story-of-grays-anatomy\/\"><em>The Anatomist<\/em><\/a>;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.billhayes.com\/book\/insomniac-city-new-york-oliver-and-me\/\"><em>Insomniac City<\/em><\/a>;&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.billhayes.com\/book\/how-we-live-now-scenes-from-the-pandemic\/\"><em>How We Live Now: Scenes from the Pandemic<\/em><\/a>.&nbsp; His writing has also appeared in&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/articles\/bill-hayes-1488576148?mg=id-wsj\"><em>The Wall Street Journal<\/em><\/a>, <em>The New York Review of Books<\/em>, the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/nyti.ms\/2JOoN6d\"><em>New York Times \u201cT\u201d Style Magazine<\/em><\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.buzzfeed.com\/billhayes\/insomniac-city?utm_term=.gbRPrYqPR2#.clJAGbwALX\"><em>BuzzFeed<\/em><\/a>, and&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/books\/2017\/mar\/26\/bill-hayes-insomniac-city-my-life-with-oliver-sacks-new-york\"><em>The Guardian<\/em><\/a>. His most recent book, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.billhayes.com\/book\/sweat-a-history-of-exercise\/\"><em>SWEAT: A History of Exercise<\/em><\/a>, a narrative nonfiction look at exercise from antiquity to the present, is available now wherever books are sold.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hayes is also a&nbsp;photographer, with credits including&nbsp;<em>The New Yorker<\/em>,&nbsp;<em>Vanity Fair<\/em>, and the&nbsp;<em>New York Times<\/em>. &nbsp;His portraits of his partner, the late Oliver Sacks, appear in the volume of Dr. Sacks\u2019s suite of final essays&nbsp;<em>Gratitude<\/em>.&nbsp; A collection of his street photography,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.billhayes.com\/book\/how-new-york-breaks-your-heart\/\">How New York Breaks Your Heart<\/a>, was published in 2018 by Bloomsbury.&nbsp; His photographs are available for sale as limited edition prints exclusively by&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/clampart.com\/\">CLAMP art gallery<\/a>&nbsp;in New York City.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns has-background is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-546eec75 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\" style=\"background-color:#ccccce;margin-top:30px;margin-bottom:30px\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-center is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-black-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-64eadc039d72e5e7deac1a3e03f8f200 wp-block-paragraph\">Books by Bill Hayes:<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.billhayes.com\/book\/sweat-a-history-of-exercise\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\" noreferrer noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.billhayes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/sweat-paperback-transparent-copy.png\" alt=\"\" style=\"width:221px;height:auto\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.billhayes.com\/book\/how-new-york-breaks-your-heart\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\" noreferrer noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.billhayes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/how-new-york-breaks-your-heart-transparent.png\" alt=\"\" style=\"width:221px;height:auto\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;height:0px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignleft size-full is-resized\" style=\"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px\"><a href=\"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Martin-Patricia-2025.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"735\" height=\"1000\" src=\"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Martin-Patricia-2025.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-29297\" style=\"width:168px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Martin-Patricia-2025.jpg 735w, https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Martin-Patricia-2025-184x250.jpg 184w, https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Martin-Patricia-2025-510x694.jpg 510w, https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Martin-Patricia-2025-110x150.jpg 110w, https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Martin-Patricia-2025-600x816.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 735px) 100vw, 735px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/patricia-martin.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Patricia Martin, MFA<\/strong><\/a><strong>,<\/strong>&nbsp;is the host of&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/category\/podcast\/jung-in-the-world\/\"><em>Jung in the World<\/em><\/a>. A noted cultural analyst, she applies Jungian theory to her work as a researcher and writer. Author of three books, her work has been featured in the&nbsp;<em>New York Times, Harvard Business Review, Huffington Post,<\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>USA Today<\/em>. She holds an MFA in writing and literature from Bennington College and an MA in cultural studies at the University College, Dublin (honors). In 2018, she completed the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/training\/jungian-psychotherapy-studies-program\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Jungian Studies Program<\/a>&nbsp;at the C. G. Jung Institute Chicago where she is a professional affiliate. A scholar in residence at the Chicago Public Library, for the last decade she\u2019s been studying the digital culture and its impact on the individuation process. 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