{"id":3351,"date":"2021-12-15T21:44:57","date_gmt":"2021-12-16T03:44:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/?p=3351"},"modified":"2024-06-11T11:53:07","modified_gmt":"2024-06-11T16:53:07","slug":"jung-in-the-world-jungs-two-personalities-their-impact-on-jungian-thought-training-with-mark-saban","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/jung-in-the-world-jungs-two-personalities-their-impact-on-jungian-thought-training-with-mark-saban\/","title":{"rendered":"Jung in the World | Jung&#8217;s Two Personalities &#038; Their Impact on Jungian Thought &#038; Training with Mark Saban"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_8784\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-3351-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/jungchicago\/content.blubrry.com\/jungchicago\/jungianthology-80-saban-interview.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/jungchicago\/content.blubrry.com\/jungchicago\/jungianthology-80-saban-interview.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/jungchicago\/content.blubrry.com\/jungchicago\/jungianthology-80-saban-interview.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/jungchicago\/content.blubrry.com\/jungchicago\/jungianthology-80-saban-interview.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=3351-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/jungchicago\/content.blubrry.com\/jungchicago\/jungianthology-80-saban-interview.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"jungianthology-80-saban-interview.mp3\">Download<\/a> (18.4MB) <\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mark Saban joins us to talk about the complexity of C. G. Jung&#8217;s own personality, and how that has shaped the way Analysts are trained today. They discuss:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Jung&#8217;s life<\/li><li>Training<\/li><li>Individuation<\/li><li>Inner and outer worlds<\/li><li>Engagement with the world<\/li><li>The archetypal vs the personal<\/li><li>Jungian analysis<\/li><li>The individuation of society<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/SABAN43703.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/SABAN43703-510x510.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4919\" width=\"114\" height=\"114\" srcset=\"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/SABAN43703-510x510.jpg 510w, https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/SABAN43703-250x250.jpg 250w, https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/SABAN43703-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/SABAN43703-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/SABAN43703-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/SABAN43703-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/SABAN43703-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/SABAN43703-64x64.jpg 64w, https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/SABAN43703.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 114px) 100vw, 114px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mark Saban is a psychotherapist, analytical psychologist, and Jungian analyst in the UK. He is a senior analyst with the&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.igap.co.uk\/\">Independent Group of Analytical Psychologists<\/a> and registered as a Jungian Analyst with the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.psychotherapy.org.uk\/\">United Kingdom Council for Psychotherapy<\/a>&nbsp;and the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/iaap.org\/\">International Association for Analytical Psychology<\/a>. He gained an M.A. at Oxford University and worked for twenty years as a performer\/writer in theatre, TV, and film before training as an analytical psychologist. He completed his PhD at the University of Essex, where he also works as a lecturer in the Department of Psychosocial and Psychoanalytic studies. He sees clients in Oxford. He is author of <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/33zvlEj\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Two Souls Alas: Carl Jung&#8217;s Two Personalities and the Making of Analytical Psychology<\/em><\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-full is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Martin-Patricia1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Martin-Patricia1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2852\" width=\"113\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Martin-Patricia1.jpg 375w, https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Martin-Patricia1-188x250.jpg 188w, https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Martin-Patricia1-113x150.jpg 113w, https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Martin-Patricia1-64x85.jpg 64w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 113px) 100vw, 113px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"http:\/\/patricia-martin.com\/\">Patricia Martin<\/a> is a cultural analyst, consultant, and the author of three books on cultural trends. As a consultant, Martin has worked on teams at Discovery Communications, Dannon, Microsoft, Ms. Foundation for Women, Oracle, Unisys, The Art Institute of Chicago, and the New York Philharmonic, to name a few. Her work has been featured in the&nbsp;<em>New York Times<\/em>,&nbsp;<em>Harvard Business Review<\/em>,&nbsp;<em>USA Today<\/em>, and&nbsp;<em>Advertising Age<\/em>. A blogger since 2002, Martin was a regular contributor to&nbsp;<em>Huffington Post<\/em>&nbsp;during its start-up years. She earned a B.A. in English and sociology from Michigan State University and an M.A. in Irish literature and culture from the University College Dublin. Later, she built a foundation for her cultural analysis by <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/store\/index.php?route=information\/information&amp;information_id=29\" target=\"_blank\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/store\/index.php?route=information\/information&amp;information_id=29\">studying Jungian theory and depth psychology at the C. G. Jung Institute of Chicago<\/a>, where she is currently a <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/jungchicago.org\/store\/index.php?route=information\/information&amp;information_id=28\" target=\"_blank\">Professional Affiliate<\/a> and member of the program committee. In 2017, she harnessed artificial intelligence to uncover the effects of the internet on our sense of self. A book on her findings entitled&nbsp;<em>Will the Future Like You?<\/em>&nbsp;is due out later in 2021. Martin speaks worldwide about cultural changes that are shaping the future and the impact of the digital culture on the collective. A native of Detroit, Martin works in Chicago and lives in an ancient forest near the shores of Lake Michigan with her husband and countless deer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-background wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"background-color:#d9dcdf\">Thank you to everyone who has shared a little about themselves. 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