Vladislav Šolc | Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2: A God’s or Devil’s gift?

This interview originally appeared in Vesmír Magazine. It was translated from Czech to English by Vladislav Šolc.


I must emphasize, however, that the grand plan on which the unconscious life of the psyche is constructed is so inaccessible to our understanding that we can never know what evil may not be necessary in order to produce good by enantiodromia, and what good may very possibly lead to evil. Sometimes the probate spiritus recommended by John cannot, with the best will in the world, be anything other than a cautious and patient waiting to see how things will finally turn out.

C. G. Jung, CW9, Part 1

The COVID-19 pandemic has swept the world. And it has caught humanity unprepared despite all past experiences. What is happening to society, to everyone at this special time? “Big questions come from a small virus,” says Vladislav Šolc, a Jungian Analyst living and practicing in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Eva Bobůrková Interviewed Vlado Šolc.

What are we experiencing today, can you describe it?

About 100 years have passed since the last major pandemic of the so-called Spanish Flu, which broke out in 1918 and claimed 50 million victims worldwide. Despite its disastrous impact, it took the WHO 30 years after that pandemic to establish a coordinated system of prevention and detection of global epidemics. Early intervention apparently prevented major spread of later respiratory epidemics such as Singapore (1957), Hong Kong Flu (1968) and later H1N1 (2009). Coordinated cooperation between governments and non-government organizations has been able to prevent the spread of Ebola, and to significantly mitigate the effects of classic influenza, malaria, or the Zika virus. However, the COVID-19 epidemic shows that mankind is not prepared for a virus that has a relatively long incubation time (5 days – 2 weeks), is highly infectious and shows a low symptom rate of the infected (95%). Again, nature has shown that even a virus whose mortality is – compared to the Black Death plague (1347-1351) which exterminated more than half of Europe’s then population) – is relatively low, yet it can disrupt even stable economies. Only with a few exceptions in the Pacific (Taiwan, New Zealand, or South Korea) the highly developed countries that boast of their advancement of science and technology have been surprised, or we should say humbled. This crisis has shown the importance of preparing for a possible global pandemic and how dangerous it is when science is not taken seriously!  All of a sudden we woke up from big “Hollywood” fantasies of our readiness for biological warfare or alien invasions. Pandemic COVID-19 has brought about an inevitable confrontation with reality.

How do you see this confrontation as a Jungian Analyst?

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Adina Davidson | Plague and Ego Relativization

This is part of a a continuing series of posts from conversations with Lisa Maechling Debbeler, JD, MA, LPCC about the nature of being a therapist/analyst in a time of quarantine. We began talking on Saturday March 21, 2020 at the beginning of the shut down and are continuing to talk weekly. We were both continuing to work and trying to see as many of our clients/analysands as possible through Zoom or other virtual methods. We were both finding this both unexpectedly and expectedly difficult and wanted to share our experiences with colleagues and friends that we respect.


From Lisa, citing an episode of the podcast This Jungian Life:

The Quarantine/Stay-at-Home order is like the beginning of an alchemical transformation of the ego being broken down. It’s the beginning of a process of relativizing all our usual ego activities to something greater, fearful and not-fully-knowable.

As Jungians we tend to take a very optimistic view of the relativization of ego. We see it as a step in the path toward wholeness. Ego needs to see its proper (small) place in psyche in order for our conscious self to relate to the Self. This process of understanding our egoic limits is put into the context of growth and development.

I see this growth-oriented relativization of ego happening at times in myself and with my analysands even in this moment of uncertainty, fear and loss. I can sense (and my analysands report) moments of spaciousness and a larger peace that seems more available in all the time and quiet we have during quarantine.  I feel the important and valuable things – such as family conversations, the friendship of my life-partner, religious and secular ritual, creative work – in my bones. They strike my more-than-usually-open and vulnerable heart and easily bring me to tears. This can be framed as a solutio (the alchemical stage of dissolving a material into its constituent parts) process. Some of the ego defenses have been dissolved by the time-honored methods of being quiet and alone, terror and sadness. This dissolving opens space for an awareness of the larger realities.

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Speaking of Jung Podcast | COVID-19: Interview with Dennis Merritt

Speaking of Jung, a podcast by Laura London, is a wonderful series of interviews with Jungian Analysts. In a recent episode, she interviewed Dennis Merritt, member of the Chicago Society of Jungian Analysts, about his recent blog post, “Covid-19: Inflection Point in the Anthropocene Era and the Paradigm Shift of Jung’s New Age“. More information about the episode is available HERE.

Dennis Merritt, Ph.D., LCSW has an MA in Humanistic Psychology, a PhD in Insect Pathology from UC-Berkeley, and is a graduate of the Zurich Jung Institute.  He practices as a Jungian analyst, sandplay therapist, and ecopsychologist in Madison and Milwaukee, WI. He authored four volumes of The Dairy Farmer’s Guide to the Universe – Jung, Hermes, and Ecopsychology. His influences include D. W. Winnicott, complexity theory, the I Ching, and Native American ceremonies, in which he has participated for over 30 years.

https://youtu.be/Q4iV_CgAS88

Speaking of Jung is available through a variety of podcasting platforms and apps, including Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, Google Play, TuneIn, Spotify, and iHeartRadio. Just search for “Speaking of Jung” in your favorite podcasts app to subscribe on your mobile device. You can also listen on YouTube.

Links: The Speaking of Jung Podcast Website | This Episode of Speaking of Jung | The Speaking of Jung YouTube ChannelDennis Merritt’s Website | Dennis Merritt’s Page on the C. G. Jung Institute of Chicago Website

Stefano Carpani | Covid-19 & the Suspension of Certainties: Conversation with Susan Rowland

In this interview, Susan Rowland and Stefano Carpani look at Susan’s peculiar approach to C.G. Jung, at her attitude toward “translation” and “meaning”, as well as at her latest research interests (art-based research) and at Covid-19.

Susan Rowland, PhD is associate Chair of two hybrid programs at Pacifica Graduate Institute: MA Engaged Humanities and the Creative Life MA. Author of seven books on Jung, literary theory, gender and ecology, her latest work is The Ecocritical Psyche (Routledge 2012), which argues for a symbol embodying a reciprocal relationship with non-human nature. Previously Professor of Jungian Studies at the University of Greenwich, London, she was founding Chair of the International Association of Jungian Studies 2003-6.

Links: Stefano’s YouTube Channel | Stefano’s Website | Susan Rownland’s page and recorded lectures on the C. G, Jung Institute of Chicago Website | Susan Rowland’s Website | All COVID-19 related posts

Stefano Carpani | Covid-19: Psychosocial Perspectives: Conversation with Andrew Samuels

Making no claim for psychology as a solution to anything, Prof. Andrew Samuels and Stefano Carpani discussed a wide range of psychosocial (and more personal) questions. They spoke about the struggle that is to come when some of us refuse to countenance a return to normality. The grim possibility was raised that many people are attracted to apocalypse – and that there can be little hope without acceptance and embrace of risk.

Andrew Samuels is a Jungian analyst, university professor, author, activist and political consultant. He is well known for his work at the interface of psychotherapy and politics. His work on sexuality, relationships, spirituality, men and fathers has been widely appreciated. He is a former Chair of the UK Council for Psychotherapy, co-founder of Psychotherapists and Counselors for Social Responsibility and of the Alliance for Counselling and Psychotherapy. His many books have been translated into 19 languages.

Links: Stefano’s YouTube Channel | Stefano’s Website | Andrew Samuels’s page and recorded lectures on the C. G, Jung Institute of Chicago Website | Andrew Samuels’s Website | All COVID-19 related posts

Research Study | Share Your Dreams

Ronnie Landau, MA, LPC, Jungian Psychoanalyst, is collecting dreams and participants may gain from sharing and reflecting. She writes:

Our mission is to assemble a worldwide database of dreams in order to thoughtfully engage with the images and themes collected. The thrust of the study is to better understand the unconscious during these highly stressful and unique times.

All dreams are welcome. And specifically, if you have had dreams that seem related to the current pandemic, and or dreams that may reflect the chaos and turmoil in the current ethos, please contribute them to the survey. It is completely anonymous.

Please share the survey link with friends, family, other colleagues, and even patients (when appropriate) in an effort to assemble a large and diverse sampling of dreams.

Thank you for participating in this meaningful project. Feel free to email us if you have any further questions (contact information in the survey). Be safe and well.

ARAS | Art in a Time of Global Crisis: Interconnection and Companionship

The Archive for Research in Archetypal Symbolism has launched a free virtual exhibition in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. From their press release:

ARAS and the Art and Psyche Working Group, in collaboration, have developed a new project, “Art in a Time of Global Crisis: Interconnection and Companionship,” as an international outreach through art. Our goal is to create a network of mutual support through art during this difficult time. Colleagues and friends from around the world, representing various cultures, geographical locations and life-styles, have been invited to contribute artistic images with commentaries that represent companionship, resilience and hope in the face of threat, fear and struggle. We plan to post one new offering each day (Monday-Friday) in our curated “virtual gallery.” With a consistent presence of art that expands with each new contribution, we hope to weave a web of interconnectedness during this current time of global upheaval.

Freddie Taborda | Breath and the Asphyxiating Life in Time of the Coronavirus (English/Español)

(English)
I wonder if some of the most severe symptoms of corona-virus, such as difficulty breathing and low oxygen levels in the bloodstream, could point, from a psychological perspective, to a concomitant problem in our civilization. The manner in which we are living life is asphyxiating. From the perspective of the collective unconscious, societies and its members are increasingly distanced from their instinctual roots. Across the world, people live a one-sided life that emphasizes intellectualism and that fosters a disconnection from their inner life, especially from the body and its animal roots. It seems as if people may be unconsciously asphyxiating their own psychological life and life in Nature. Both the denial of current Climate Crisis and the high levels of psychological suffering around the world may attest to that. Nature and the inner nature have little room to breath, and their revenge is the creation of an asphyxiating disease in humans.
I wonder what would happen if we stop asphyxiating our inner live and Nature and give them enough space to breath…..and live more fully.

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Adina Davidson | Two Jungians’ Thoughts from the Quarantine

These are some notes from a conversation with Lisa Maechling Debbeler, JD, MA, LPCC about the nature of being a therapist/analyst in a time of quarantine. We began talking on Saturday March 21, 2020 at the beginning of the shut down and are continuing to talk weekly. We were both continuing to work and trying to see as many of our clients/analysands as possible through Zoom or other virtual methods. We were both finding this both unexpectedly and expectedly difficult and wanted to share our experiences with colleagues and friends that we respect.


First, we both were finding that conducting therapy/analysis virtually was shockingly exhausting and so were almost all of our colleagues. We had certain expectations of our ability to be productive between clients and found that both of us were staring vaguely into space or aimlessly snacking rather than taking a note, making a phone call, doing some writing, eating lunch etc.  We were interested in whether there might be a Jungian perspective that might help inform our understanding if not help rectify it.

My initial stab was that we were missing the “field” that exists between analyst and analysand and is the container for much of the therapy. Not only in the sense of the quasi-mystical field of collective unconscious and synchronicity but in the simple physiological data that we gather about each other unconsciously. The micro shifts in facial expression, the half-heard sighs or in breaths, the subtle changes in body language. All of this is missing or limited when we view each other through a computer screen. Our conscious egoic self must carry all the burden of the communication with no help from our instinctive or intuitive understanding of what the person is communicating non-verbally.

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Freddie Taborda | A Symbolic Meaning of Corona Virus: An Opinion (English/Español)

(English)
What could be a psychological meaning of the corona virus?
Upon reflection, and without denying the frightening, tragic, and devastating effects that this virus is bringing to individuals, families, groups, and countries from around the world, some of the interpersonal isolating measures may help us find some value in solitude, silence, and introspection.
These three human experiences have a positive aspect in terms of connecting with our inner lives and the mystery of life. However, for some people, these experiences may be unbearable.
Now that you will be spending more time at home, consider the possibility of cultivating those three experiences. Solitude may open up the opportunity to be with your Self, with the images, feelings, and thoughts that come to your mind. A befriending of them may contribute to the processes of self-understanding and self-realization, if you chose to. Furthermore, silence may help to quiet down the racing thoughts of the civilized mind. Finally, a willing attitude towards introspection may open up the door to the hidden treasures that are within.
Let us not be surprised if, during these health-related and world-wide crisis, solitude, silence, and introspection awaken, every night, vivid dreams that seek a more meaningful and balanced life from us. Perhaps Nature may be forcing us, through this virus, to a greater connection to our inner lives and to the divine mystery of life.

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Vladislav Šolc | Ode to COVID-19

Sit Covid bonus aut malus: quaestiō

Oh, you mighty and yet invisible, you weightless and yet so powerful.
You oh came to gently remind us all that there’s no one who can control your will.
Your gentle yet deathly stroke became the mankind’s school,
Teaching us all how to feel, how to love, and also how to chill.

You slowed the time and made us be with those whom we always felt most free,
You showed us “now,” you showed us “here,” all we always craved
Unconsciously…
Gratitude, humility, what matters and how our souls are to be saved!

Perhaps by showing you know no borders, have no race nor gender,
By your mortal tap making rich and poor even,
You could take more, but you’re generous and tender…
Our pride took the Earth for granted, we asked no “what” but only “when!”

We thought the health insurance was a privilege that protects us from those who cannot have it,
We thought some of us had special right just due to a special religion,
You’ve gently shown us how silly it was to think that some of us are immune from your hit.
Now, when powerless and in your prison, we acknowledge yours is timing, the scope and region!

You teach us that nature is us indeed; no, we are not her masters, but tiny children… that all we are just dust in the wind.
Your mighty wisdom has conveyed that truth matters because there’s no talking out the losses away.
Waking up this way… remembering the lessons… seeing connections… and inevitably getting your hint.
Now we see we lost the respect for animals and waters, and plants. The power of action rather than that of prayer.

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